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Mike Pence discusses Trump, Jan. 6 and 2024

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Former Vice President Mike Pence poses for a portrait during an interview. Pence released a new autobiography "So Help Me God" that chronicles his life, including his time in the Trump administration.
  • Pence: “The American people long for leadership, for government as good as our people.”
  • Trump and Pence haven’t spoken for more than a year.
  • Pence said he was shocked by the results of the midterm elections one week earlier.

NEW YORK – Mike Pence, deferential no more.

The vice president who sparked four years of disparaging memes for his unblinking loyalty to Donald Trump through his presidency – except, famously, at the very end – now predicts Trump won’t be able to claim the Republican nomination for the White House in 2024.

In an interview with USA TODAY, Pence also declined to commit to voting for Trump if the GOP does choose him again as its standard-bearer. And he responded with a laugh, but not a direct answer, when asked whether he thought Trump would vote for him, if he’s the one at the top of the ticket next time around. 

“I think there’s a real desire for new leadership in the Republican Party,” Pence said in an interview pegged to his book, “So Help Me God,” published Tuesday by Simon & Schuster. “Everywhere I’ve gone across the country, I hear people that are very proud of the record of the Trump-Pence administration … but almost in the same breath, I hear people say they want leadership that reflects the respect and civility that most Americans practice every day.”